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Do You Believe VGs Are a "Male Thing"?

Post by Guest on Tue Dec 24, 2013 3:55 pm

No. Not in particular. Males are certainly playing VGs far more than females, though.

Both genders can play if they so please. But overall, I feel it's a thing males can relate to each other moreso than females can.

Do I sound sexist for bringing this up?(i'll leave that up for you to decide)
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Re: Do You Believe VGs Are a "Male Thing"?

Post by King Atem on Tue Dec 24, 2013 4:01 pm

Yes you are very sexist impo. My best friend is a female gamer you know. -_- I think there are far more female gamers then you may not even know about. Female gamers are always going to be a part of the gaming society. Not only that but not all female gamers play girly games either & play the hard core stuff sometimes better then us male gamers. 

Personally I think in time females my be more into gaming then us guys are. It all depends on the kind of games that release & how future girl gamers are raised too. Razz


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Re: Do You Believe VGs Are a "Male Thing"?

Post by Guest on Tue Dec 24, 2013 4:06 pm

So, you thought I was sexist?

Personally, I didn't feel I was. 

Oh well. The point I was really trying to make here was males play VGs more than females. I know that females are a large part of this.

I guess it's fun to see if others think I'm sexist for thinking the way I do? I dunno.
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Re: Do You Believe VGs Are a "Male Thing"?

Post by King Atem on Tue Dec 24, 2013 4:15 pm

Darkened Blizzard wrote:So, you thought I was sexist? Personally, I didn't feel I was. 

Oh well. The point I was really trying to make here was males play VGs more than females. I know that females are a large part of this.

I guess it's fun to see if others think I'm sexist for thinking the way I do? I dunno.
Because you are coming off sexist in your post; saying that video games are mainly for males. Females aren't even a part of your thought for your post though you will say they are a part of it but you think that they aren't the main ones of a certain gender to play them. My reasoning is because of the statement that's been quoted in bold above.

I think that your just trying to be a troll & are trolling for troll responses from the female members here. If I were a moderator here; that wouldn't last for five minutes.

Btw; I'm just stating what I think. that is all: I mean no offense.


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Re: Do You Believe VGs Are a "Male Thing"?

Post by Guest on Tue Dec 24, 2013 4:39 pm

I'm not gunna change your opinion because it's such a redundant task.

Now calling me a troll is going too far. I assume you say this because I made a sensitive topic or trying to deny I was being sexist re: the bold text?

Well, we all have our way of thinking.

And mine is I don't feel I am and that the male population plays VGs more than that of the female population. I guess this incited that females aren't gamers. Oh well. I'm done with this. You can continue this if you want.

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Re: Do You Believe VGs Are a "Male Thing"?

Post by Guest on Tue Dec 24, 2013 5:03 pm

Darkened Blizzard wrote:I'm not gunna change your opinion because it's such a redundant task.

Now calling me a troll is going too far. I assume you say this because I made a sensitive topic or trying to deny I was being sexist re: the bold text?

Well, we all have our way of thinking.

And mine is I don't feel I am and that the male population plays VGs more than that of the female population. I guess this incited that females aren't gamers. Oh well. I'm done with this. You can continue this if you want.
Sir; your entire statement is sexist & the fact that Yusei called you on it only serves to point to the fact that you are being sexist. As for him calling you a troll; this isn't a "sensitive topic" because your completely wrong & have no facts to back up your claim that there are more male gamers compared to female gamers. Had you added facts to your post then perhaps you could argue that Yusei was in the wrong for calling you a troll as he did; but Unknown Entity: to be fair I see it as your being a troll with your thoughtless responses & not backing up your claims with facts. Razz

Impo; what you posted sir: is a kin to your saying that there are only male drivers on the road because it's more of a male thing to drive. (For an example of a post with out any facts to back up said claim.) It just makes you look like you are trolling for responses from the female member base.

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Re: Do You Believe VGs Are a "Male Thing"?

Post by Guest on Tue Dec 24, 2013 5:12 pm

Good way to shut me up, right? Why couldn't Yusei say this himself, though? He had to bring you along?

Maybe it's because I'm too lazy to show actual proof(or like you said. it may not actually be true). You can believe what you want. I can believe what I want.

I don't feel I'm being sexist or a troll(i did want to intentionally get Yusei mad in The Anything Thread, though. so yeah. there. i could be considered one). My corrupt thinking is what prolly makes others view me as a troll, though.

I'm still sticking to what I feel. And if I get banned here if the mods feel I should, so be it. What the hell does that even do but prevent me to make virtual posts on a forum and provide stupid opinions(and communicating with others; that will be a blow).

If one thinks of it sexist, then yes... It could be. Like how I deliberately put it in the opening post. I had a feeling others would prolly think of me as such so I knew what I was getting into.


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Re: Do You Believe VGs Are a "Male Thing"?

Post by Zero Revolution on Tue Dec 24, 2013 10:34 pm

No, I never thought of it as a "male thing." But although gaming is for anyone who wants to play games, I have no idea whether there are an exact number of females and males who play games. There's really no way to tell either.

In Unknown Entity's posts, I don't think he was saying "gaming is not for everyone, only males" but rather that he believes more males play games than females. Which I again have no idea whether or not is true, but anyone can play games if they want to, so it really doesn't matter imo.


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Re: Do You Believe VGs Are a "Male Thing"?

Post by King Atem on Wed Dec 25, 2013 12:04 am

What's funny to me is the fact that my friend who I had no hand in asking to defend my stance just called him out on his b.s. opinion post. I have proof right here from CNN to back up my claim that there are far more female gamers then he may think.

Nearly half of all video-gamers are women

(CNN) -- A new report suggests adult women are nearly half of all video game players. That's a number that can be read in the changing tone of some of today's top games. But it's also one that some female gamers say isn't really as close to even as it should be.

According to the "2013 Essential Facts About the Computer and Video Game Industry" report, produced by the Entertainment Software Association, 45% of all game players, and 46% of the most frequent purchasers of games, are female. Adult women make up 31% of the game-playing population.

"This new data underscores the remarkable upward trajectory for video games. It is an entertainment form enjoyed by hundreds of millions of consumers worldwide," said Michael D. Gallagher, president and CEO of ESA, the trade association that represents the U.S. video game industry. "A diverse and energized consumer base, remarkable new hardware, and outstanding software all combine to foster growth for our industry."

Female gamers are obviously a diverse group. Millions enjoy the shooters, strategy games and other titles favored by "hardcore" enthusiasts. Millions more have eased into the gaming world via social and smartphone games, or through family interactions.

One of the top reasons why people buy video games is an interesting storyline, according to the report. And some women have pointed to a rise in the number of games with complex themes and more scenarios that call for decision-making, not brute force, as a selling point.

And it doesn't hurt that many of those same titles have begun to include female protagonists, or at least the ability to create your own.

'Lady game creators' meet up on Twitter.

"Today's game characters are much more customizable than years ago," said Lauren Eleazer, 26, from State College, Pennsylvania. "This is part of overall game development, but every female gamer I've met appreciates being able to style her character and make it more unique."

Jessica Chobot, a television and Web show host whose work has appeared on gaming site IGN, the G4 network and elsewhere, said the industry has been taking notice of the rise of female gamers, and that the inclusion of female characters in meaningful roles is no accident.

"In a lot of ways, it was the perfect storm for change," said Chobot, who is also a writer for the Zombie Studios game, "Daylight." "The gaming industry's awareness of having to appeal to a wider audience -- one that included women -- has been reflected with the addition of stronger female characters.

"The 2013 re-vamped 'Lara Croft,' 'Mass Effect's female version of Commander Shepard and 'Uncharted''s Elena Fisher and Chloe Frazer are just a few examples that come to mind."

Other strong female characters, like Elizabeth in "BioShock Infinite" or Ellie in "The Last of Us," show the range developers are willing to put in their games to attract a wider audience and provide a different experience from games in the past.

Upcoming games like "Beyond: Two Souls" and a new "Mirror's Edge" appear that they'll continue to put women in the forefront of gaming action and narrative.
But, sometimes, it's the little things that can help draw more women into the gaming fold.

"Control schemes need to do more to take into account people who didn't grow up with a controller in their hands," said Colleen Hannon, a senior editor for the website Gamers With Jobs. "I'm not saying make the game easier; I'm saying give people who need to learn those basic skills a path to learn that doesn't belittle or sideline them."

The sustained and growing pop-culture presence of video games also has been a boon for developers looking to add women to their player bases.

"I think this issue is cultural," said Shannon Gagnon, 28, from Scranton, Pennsylvania. "Since being a geek has become something to be proud of, instead of something to hide, more of my female friends are becoming gamers. But they don't see a lot of games they are interested in, because mostly when you see games advertised it is 'Call of Duty' or 'World of Warcraft.' "
A majority of gamers play games with their family -- 16% play with parents, 32% play with other family members and 16% play with their spouse or significant other. That widening acceptance of gaming is also helping women feel like they belong.

"I've noticed the biggest difference in attitude coming from non-gamers, especially other women, who once found my pastime silly," said Audrey Epple, from Macon, Georgia. "Now, they seem more accepting. It has become the norm."
But despite those cultural shifts, talk to many female gamers and you'll hear stories about a darker side of the hobby -- a persistent "boy's club" mentality that sometimes manifests itself in ugly ways.

Story after story recounts female gamers who, once they ventured into gaming circles beyond family and friends, faced mockery, dismissive attitudes and even abuse from their peers.

In one recent story making the rounds in online gaming circles, a girl went into a certain game's online community, asking about its mechanics.
The first response she got was from a male player, telling her he'd answer if she performed a sex act on him.

Harassment of women in online gaming forums is prevalent enough that there's even a derogatory term -- "white knight" -- for male members who step up to defend them -- the suggestion being that they're only doing so to gain favor with the woman involved.

"Age of the other gamer makes quite a difference," said Eleazer. "Older gamers tend to be respectful of female gamers ... . Anyone 15 or younger doesn't get it, but I blame that on maturity."

Chobot says that kind of attitude is beginning to fade, but that it "hasn't quite changed just yet."

"More and more women can be found in high profile and strong roles within the industry," she said. "Yet, just recently, the comment was made to me, 'You're just a host, right? You don't really play games.' "

Hannon, of Gamers With Jobs, said she thinks the way games are marketed plays a role.

"There are more women over 18 playing games now than boys under 17," she said. "But you wouldn't be able to tell by the contents and comment sections of most game publications, the language/behavior of their fellow players online, or the game design, marketing materials and tactics of most game publishers and developers."

Gagnon said trolls will be trolls, especially during competitive, multi-player games. However, she does think game companies could do more to crack down on the abuse.

"I realize these trolls set out to mock any and all gamers and it's not solely focused on female gamers," she said. "But it certainly feels as if I am being singled out."

There's no reason to think the gaming industry won't have more and more of those female gamers to think about in the years to come.
The ESA shows that 35% of parents are playing computer and video games with their children every week and 58% are playing with them at least once a month.
The computer and video game industry as a whole had $14.8 billion in sales in 2012, according to the ESA report. Given that women are 46% of that purchasing audience, there is a great incentive for game developers to keep women in mind.

They say they aren't looking for special treatment, aren't asking for female-only games and, in many cases, don't even like to be differentiated as "girl gamers." Instead, they say, they want to be entertained, to be challenged, to have fun -- just like the guys.

"More women are getting involved, both behind the scenes and as educated consumers," Chobot said. "The boys' club attitude in gaming needed to stop yesterday."


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The above proves that UE has no idea what he is talking about & was making a baseless post to antagonize the female member base. Thus why I called him a troll. The fact that he deleted his account & couldn't take what Mega Raichu said & thus further back up his post with facts: is proof enough he was a troll.

If some one is going to make a post that has 0 facts in it; then gets scared & run off with out basing an blatantly looking sexist posted opinion with NO facts then most any one is going to get the reaction they got from not only myself but from Mega Riachu as well.

My best friend is a female gamer, Mega Raichu's sister is a female gamer, hell even my boss is a female gamer. Female gamers are every where & his post just comes off saying that he thinks it's just an all male dominated thing: when the truth is that his facts are wrong. So he should have gotten his facts straight before posting up what his opinion was on this topic.

Btw: if my posts entertained him then frankly I don't give two craps; because it only further proves my point of his being a troll.

That is all.


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Re: Do You Believe VGs Are a "Male Thing"?

Post by Guest on Wed Dec 25, 2013 1:35 pm

I'm going to utterly destroy you. If you can keep this going then I'll be surprised.

Also, I won't be trying to change/sway your opinion into siding with mine or something. I'm just putting my mind straight. Or at least TRYING.

Before anything(and this is going back to my first post), perhaps you misunderstood what I meant. I certainly don't think VGs are a male only thing. I do, however, have the OPINION that human beings of the MALE GENDER play video games MORE than that of the FEMALE GENDER.

And looking back at your posts you thought I meant(from what i can gather), "Yes. I do think it's a male thing and that females don't/shouldn't play video games and/or not that prevalent in the industry as a whole."

No. What I meant was I feel IN MY OPINION that MALES play video games MORE than FEMALES. If you can't wrap your head around my clues then I'm sorry. I obviously failed at trying to get you to see MY OPINION on this.

You believing I'm sexist because of this is fine by me. If it does seem like it to others, then so be it. I sound like a sexist. My problem with you is you seem to think MY OPINION is a bulls**t opinion post because I didn't provide facts(as well as throwing the term troll carelessly. i dunno how it made you think so, i won't inquire). Perhaps there's something I missed that points me out to being a troll. BTW, do you even know what OPINION means?

o·pin·ion
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noun: opinion; plural noun: opinions
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a view or judgment formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge.

Maybe I'm wrong in the way I'm viewing your side of things. IDK.

I'm going to stand my ground in what I believe as in AN OPINION on this subject. Also, if we take into account my insanity posts as shown here in this topic I didn't do a good job of it.

And to add. IDGAF what Mega Raichu has to say in regards to this. You're the only one I'm dealing with, Yusei.
In Unknown Entity's posts, I don't think he was saying "gaming is not for everyone, only males" but rather that he believes more males play games than females.
I think you have the right idea about what I'm trying to say BTW.

suggests adult women are nearly half of all video game players
The keyword here I feel is "nearly half of all". This to me means females are not the prominent gender in this silly debate we've been having.

45% of all game players, and 46% of the most frequent purchasers of games, are female. Adult women make up 31% of the game-playing population.
I think this speaks for itself.


Maybe I didn't want to show any facts because I have the opinion that(and remember. OPINION means a perspective thought of not necessarily through fact and/or knowledge)
more males play games than females
And if you have a problem with it and your OPINION is I'm coming off sexist, okay then. I'm sticking to my belief regardless. Dunno if it seemed like it to you, but I'm trying to respect your opinion. But if you can't do that why should I even act nice(much less an a**h***)?

Inferring me as a troll was an added bonus on your part, though. It never was my intention, but whatever. I'll give you the troll bit in The Anything Thread, however. But in this topic? No.

Now I'm really done with this unless provoked by some response. Say what you wish, I'm not going to change my stance.
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Re: Do You Believe VGs Are a "Male Thing"?

Post by Luma Party on Wed Dec 25, 2013 8:16 pm

People just stop this before I get you all banned.

Unknown this was no reason to completely unsubscribe from the forum and join again.

People have different opinions, live with it Yusei.


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